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Response to Assemblies of God Leaders

RESPONSE TO ASSEMBLIES OF GOD LEADERS

RICK KNOTH & ROGER COTTON’S CHARGES AGAINST KAREN PANSLER

 

March 5, 2011

Author James Sundquist

James Sundquist

Dear Rick Knoth and Roger Cotton,

I am in receipt of your letters to Karen Pansler regarding her published article entitled: http://www.libertyadvocate.com/Bewitched%21.htm

Here is my response:

JUDGING INTENT
You have both accused Karen Pansler, but have failed to supply proof that she has borne false witness against either Alton Garrison or Rick Warren. I remind you that Scripture clearly states that bearing false witness against a brother (sister) is an abomination to the Lord. As to your charges that Karen Pansler is judging the “intent” of Alton Garrison’s heart, even if his intent were noble, false teaching must still be exposed. Garrison’s intent is revealed in his own writing. Why don’t you lay those charges at the Apostle Paul’s feet when he cursed the Judaizers in Galatians? Karen Pansler was tame in her article description of Garrison and Warren’s teachings compared to Jesus Christ’s description of Pharisees calling them a brood of vipers. Tame in comparison to Paul’s description of the teachings of Hymenaus in calling it gangrene. Tame in comparison to Peter and Jude’s description false teachers and false brethren: “accursed brood”, “twice dead”, “wild waves foaming up their shame”, “wandering stars”…or whom the blackest darkness has been reserved forever.”

Karen Pansler’s title: “Bewitched” is most appropriate for it is the same language the Apostle Paul employed in Galatians. But is also appropriate in the case of Rick Warren because of what Paul said to them and why he twice cursed the Judaizers in their midst who were trying to put Gentile saints back under the law, precisely what Rick Warren is doing with his forced covenants and forced tithing which members must sign. So it is you who are walking in darkness to not even know how appropriate Mrs. Pansler’s title for Alton Garrison and any Pentecostals who drink from these PDC/Emerging Church contaminated springs.

OFFENDED
You talk about being “offended,” yet show no compassion or mercy to those PDC victims who were truly offended when your purpose-driven leaders George Wood and Duane Durst hijacked local AOG churches and seized their bank accounts as I document in the AOG case studies on our website:
http://www.perfectpeaceplan.com in the articles section.

MATTHEW 18
Your reference to and application of Matthew 18 in your response reveals that you do not appear to understand Matthew 18 at all. Matthew 18 pertains to a PRIVATE matter between two brothers in Christ. Karen Pansler’s article is not a correction regarding a private matter, but rather it is a commentary on public teachings, as both Alton Garrison’s article on “Change” and Rick Warren’s teachings are public. The Bible requires us to expose false teaching publicly, precisely as Paul did with Peter that all might fear the Lord; and John did in publicly exposing Diotrephes. Your accusation is fatally flawed because Karen Pansler did follow the prescribed biblical model for dealing with conflict. In both of your cases, Karen Pansler did fulfill Matthew 18 by now twice warning you before going public because of your failure to repent or receive correction. For even Matthew 18 requires Christians to take a brother before the whole church if he does not repent. Paul reinforces this command to rebuke publicly. Had the AOG followed the biblical model to expose false teaching, as Dr. Opal Reddin warned all AOG pastors in her October 21, 2005 appeal letter all AOG pastors, Rick Warren promoters would have their credentials rescinded and publicly marked. We are not aware of this ever happening…rather your Enrichment Journal promotes these false teachers. The Enrichment Journal has been promoting Warren at least as far back as 1998. Proof:

http://enrichmentjournal.ag.org/199804/012_audience_to_army.cfm

I am still waiting for even one Assemblies of God pastor out of the thousands I have written to exhibit the true meaning of Matthew 18. I have sent about a half dozen emails to Enrichment Journal over the years…they NEVER responded once to any of my inquires or appeals. If you believe I should have followed Matthew 18, where are their responses?

Your Enrichment Journal to my knowledge has never given both sides of the story regarding Rick Warren, rather it is a propaganda tool…Purpose Driven Pravda. Show me one article where the abused victims of PDC were ever given a voice or allowed to testify? Show me one article in which all of those members of AOG Churches which George Wood and Duane Durst seized were given the opportunity to tell their side of the story in Enrichment Journal when their churches were seized, the doors of their churches padlocked, in compliance with this Scripture:?

“[He that is] first in his own cause [seemeth] just; but his neighbour cometh and searcheth him” Proverbs 18:17

LABELING
You have gnashed your teeth with contempt for Karen Pansler yet show absolutely no compassion for any of the victims of Rick Warren’s Purpose-Driven victims. Rick Warren and his collaborators are far more brutal in their labeling of fellow Christians “Sandballats…Leaders from Hell” and “Enemies of the 21st Century!” Where is your outcry against them?

EXPOSING FALSE TEACHERS
You have acted surprised at Pansler’s article. You are marking and exposing her for telling the truth. But it is you that should be publicly exposed and your names brought before the church so that they would all be warned about you and alerted to what is in store for them should Rick Warren’s change seize their church, or dare question you. What she exposed about Warren has been known for years. There are at least two books published by scholars and Christians exposing Warren’s false teachings and programs. The main difference in her article is that she includes Garrison as one of Warren’s disciples and co-conspirators. So your issue then is with a host of saints who were good Bereans and exposed Warren’s false teachings.

RESISTERS
Rick Warren is a change agent as Alton correctly cites, but readers are not told what is in store for “resisters” to his change strategy. But once again, the facts are in evidence, where Rick Warren tells us in writing what is in store for “resisters”: HERE IS WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE WHO OPPOSE RICK WARREN AND ALTON GARRISON

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/resistersdieorleave.htm

Had you done your own due diligence upon reading Karen Pansler’s article, you could have easily verified Karen Pansler’s exposition, by simply searching Google for the terms: “Rick Warren”, “change agent”. Most of the first several pages contain a host of exposes already written against Rick Warren, revealing his true nature.

CHANGE AGENT
Alton’s promotion of Warren could not be isolated to his Change letter because as Assistant General Superintendent, he is responsible for executing and concurring with everything that George Wood pushes and endorses …they are joined at the hip. Rick Warren has completely permeated AOG…so Alton’s latest missive is no surprise and nothing new. So how is it you are surprised? Alton Garrison nor George Wood CAN NOT IGNORANTLY BE CHANGE AGENTS…at this point in the game, but are willing champions of it!!

http://www.worldviewweekend.com/worldview-tube/video.php?videoid=4429

Here are just two of the “changes” Alton Garrison’s mentor Rick Warren has in mind for AOG churches, already, in fact, implemented by the AOG and promoted by Enrichment Journal. One is forced covenants and forced taking of personality profiling temperament divination embedded in SHAPE, We Build People, and MBTI based on the occultic personality theories of Carl Jung magic arts. The other is your EMERGE Counseling which I also exposed on our website.

George Wood and Alton Garrison are guilty of sharing in Rick Warren’s iniquity in accordance with this Scripture:

2Jo 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son
2Jo 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into [your] house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jo 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

ACCOUNTABILITY
Assemblies of God leaders can accuse and abuse with impunity and no accountability. You have paid attorneys on staff who will come to the rescue of and defend your leaders, but are these attorneys whose salary is paid for by members tithes and offerings available to fellow AOG credential holders? If a credential holder were to write an article like Karen Pansler, you could threaten to yank their credentials, threaten employees and remind them of confidentiality agreements, or worse, extort them to take EMERGE mental health counseling. Why you should fear the Lord even more would be had you actually succeeded in silencing Karen Pansler. But like the Disciples in the Book of Acts, she will not be silenced.

EDITORIAL JOURNALISTIC RESPONSIBILITY
If you were really brave, you would present the other side of the story to your Enrichment Journal. You have the power to do it as Editor. Or, you could be like Deborah or Esther in the Bible, Dr. Opal Reddin (former professor at AOG’s Central Bible College), and Assemblies of God long time member Linda Chisolm (see her appeal to the AOG leaders which also fell on deaf ears:

http://www.worldviewweekend.com/worldview-times/article.php?articleid=5188

All of these were not cowards. Or, you could remain silent and leave your readers in darkness. How tragic it is that the Lord has to use secular media like the Wall Street Journal to give a voice to the oppressed and abused at the hands of Rick Warren to expose him, when it should have been leaders like you. What a reproach on Jesus Christ and the Gospel. Isaiah was certainly right about you two, Alton Garrison, George Wood, and Rick Warren:

Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

CONCLUSION
You two circle your wagons around your leaders who are the perpetrators and villainize the messenger, instead of circling them around the truth! Instead of attacking sister Karen Pansler, and assaulting her character, and blaming her for your own dereliction of duty as watchmen on the wall, did it ever occur to you to thank her for sounding an alarm on His Holy Hill to all AOG Credential holders and the church at large as well as commend her for responding to the SOS cries from victims of Rick Warren’s Purpose-Driven Global Peace plan? Even if change were prescribed in Scripture, God would NEVER change the church into a book and program riddled with biblical errors and contradicts and confusion in Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven Life Book and other teachings. God, who is the same yesterday and forever, would never change his church by importing into the church doctrines of demons and seducing spirits!

So instead of calling Karen Pansler to repentance, you both have it backwards. It is you who should be sharply rebuked and repent to her and also for being abysmal shepherds for not protecting the Assemblies of God from wolves in sheep’s clothing. You both refused to repent and receive correction, instead Mr. Knoff, the Managing Editor of Enrichment Journal, retaliates and threatens to blackball Karen Pansler. She was simply doing what should have been your job!

DISCLAIMER: Rock Salt Publishing was founded by author James Sundquist as a volunteer discernment ministry to assist those who have been affected by the abuse of ecclesiastical power or false doctrine. The contents of all of the emails, articles, blogs, books and broadcasts have been researched very thoroughly and carefully. Where applicable, both documentation and supportive Scripture references are provided. It is a very serious matter to bring charges against any organization or individual, and therefore if anyone reading these charges is able to substantiate that they are false, please bring this to our attention.

EMAIL FROM RICK KNOTH

On Mar 2, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Karen Pansler wrote:

From: Rick Knoth
To: Karen Pansler
Subject: Re: Alton Garrison/AG rebuked on Liberty Advocate
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:07:44 -0600

Karen,

I’m offended that you send your rebukes of others to so many people. If you are truly wanting to follow the biblical model for dealing with conflict, please address your concerns directly to Dr. Garrison first and leave me and others off your send list.

Respectfully,

Rick Knoth
Managing Editor,
Enrichment Journal
The General Council of the Assemblies of God
1445 Boonville, Springfield, MO 65802-1894
Ph. 417.862.2781, ext. 4095
Fax 417.862.0416
Email
[email protected]
Web www.enrichmentjournal.ag.org

EMAIL FROM ROGER COTTON
From: “Cotton, Roger”
To: Karen Pansler
Subject: RE: Alton Garrison/AG rebuked on Liberty Advocate
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:02:21 +0000

Your message is one of the most unchristian, unbiblical, rants I have ever read. You misinterpret his words almost completely. The worst thing is you judge his heart motives which Jesus said not to do. You repeatedly say he “purposely” did sinful things with Scripture. You cannot know his heart. You have sinned by saying those things. Have you followed Matt 18 and gone to him to talk out your concerns? Unless you repent and make things right I ask that you take me off your mailing list. Roger Cotton

  1. September 29th, 2012 at 19:27 | #1

    Hello Mr. Sunquist, just wanted to thank you for exposing these people who are truly making merchandise out of men’s souls. I have listened to what you went through (I listened to Susan Puzio’s blog radio) and I am so glad I found your’s and Susan’s websites. As the Lord continues to guide you, please keep up this work. It is so needed in today’s world as the people of God continue to come out from churches that have given themselves over to another gospel, and not the one which our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ has/is establishing. People need to know that they are not alone after they have been disillusioned by certain “ministries.” Thank you and may God richly continue to bless you with His strength and power.

  2. rhonda
    April 23rd, 2011 at 21:39 | #2

    James:
    Regarding Matthew 18:15-17, per a man’s email, it does NOT have to be walked out with False Leadership (as the Assemblies have always been NOT accountable at all whatsoever to anyone, they’re god’s unto themselves). He said that verse was for personal sin and per even a major famous leader that has passed, he had said the same thing in a pulpit that you just take Leadership public that same verse didn’t apply either. They want you to think you have to walk out Matthew 18:15-17 so they can come back and say, you didn’t walk it out right, didn’t do it right and move you on to the next person. Know people who have confronted this evil movement for over 40 years and they are NOT correctable, teachable, NOTHING; they have a “complete and utter disdain for correction”.

    They told one of their own pastor’s in So. California when he ordered their history, doctrine brochures, this pastor called them up and said you have nothing on the apostolic and prophetic and they said they do not believe in that doctrine. Explains why they have NEVER been correctable, teachable and or accountable. Book: “Don’t Call Me Brother” by Austin Miles depicts them for the cult that they are. People who have tried to correct, confront evil organization keeps everyone sick, suppressed, in bondage, using the Bible to keep you that way because they do NOT live in truth it’s about the money boys. Very sad people tithe to this very dead business institution because God does not get any money and habitually lie where it goes and what they do with it. Not to mention, constant lying about taking second offering and giving it to the guest speaker or for some fun raising project and continual lie what they do with that money. People don’t question that they could have sat and died in this movement and they would have NEVER gone through the Bible completely once, talk about prayer and don’t do it; humility and repentance isn’t modeled and or true worship. Very manipulating, controlling cult and I wished people would wake up and take their families out and not raise them to stay and tithe because God does NOT get any money nor the poor, it goes to their buildings and their lifestyles. Do not understand why people are go and attend because they chose to be brainwashed and controlled and NOT think for themselves. Refer to them as spiritual vampires, spiritual cannibals and habitual liars and what do you get for your money? You get their god, their jesus and their unholy spirit and yes they are committing sin with people.

    Create a blog that people can report regarding this denomination and others (maybe so Rick Ross (rickross.com) report all their evil abuses and dogma and lies and control. Full of witchcraft. Book: Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse by Johnson/Van Vonderan depict them well. They really need to close their doors and go totally defunct but stupid brainwashed people (“sheeple”) don’t, can’t and won’t see it unfortunately. No one questions what they own, worth and where the money is going and following that habitual lying trail. BooK: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola depicts them well also. Please, everyone get unbrainwashed and think for yourself. Didn’t drink the kool-aid.

    P.S. TAKE THEM PUBLIC, confronted them for years on their evil and have heard many a nightmare story of abuse over 40 years of hearing evil. They are NOT correctable whatsoever. Some man told me God spared him from ever walking into their churches and my response was God saved you from Death, total death. Who comes to kill, steal and destroy= definitely “assassins of god”.