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UNITED METHODIST CHURCH DEFIES ITS FOUNDER JOHN WESLEY ON ISLAM

 

UNITED METHODIST CHURCH

DEFIES ITS FOUNDER JOHN WESLEY

ON ISLAM

By James Sundquist

As more Methodist Churches make a mockery of their own founder John Wesley by reading the Koran and reciting Islamic Prayers throughout the U.S., and well known partner of Rick Warren, Methodist leader Leonard Sweet tout Mohammad, the following letter of warning was sent to Pastor Steve Stone and staff members of still another Methodist Church inviting this false religion to conduct services in defiling its sanctuary.  To date, none have repented who received the following warning letter, and their own pastor retaliated, gnashing his teeth at me.  This article also serves as my response to his charges against me. His charges are posted at the end of this article.  This report was sent to his District Superintendent, Dr. Cynthia Davis.  No response!  Here is proof of another Muslim leading congregation in Quran recitation from a Methodist pulpit:

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybSAinBMb_g

Methodist churches compound their defiance of John Wesley by embracing Chrislam services:

http://michaeljmaxim.com/?p=2731

and are on the LIST OF SIGNERS OF
“A CHRISTIAN RESPONSE TO ‘A COMMON WORD BETWEEN US AND YOU’”

[i.e. between CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM]

(Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing Defying Scripture that Light has NO Fellowship with Darkness and there is NOTHING in common between Christ and Belial)

http://www.perfectpeaceplan.com/post/muslim-jesus-vs-biblical-jesus-in-arabic-language

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United Methodists promise to demolish their churches each time a Quran is burned

By Marc Schenker
Vancouver American Politics Examiner
http://tinyurl.com/3fh7sry
April 2nd, 2011

“United Methodists promise to demolish one of their churches each time Quran is burned. The United Methodist community in the US is promising to stand in solidarity with the religion of peace, each time that one of their Qurans is burned by a so-called bigot, such as Florida pastor Terry Jones. The United Methodists’ promise to tear down one of their churches every time a Quran is burned in the world comes as a show of solidary after the actions of 1000 Muslim men in Afghanistan yesterday. …
At a press conference yesterday, that was attended by none other than the notorious Reverend Jesse Jackson, Methodist Bishop Walter M. Itty issued a statement that claimed to express solidarity with Islam. In reality, though, the statement claiming solidary with Islam should be seen for what it is: appeasement towards the so-called religion of peace. In the statement, the United Methodists in the US actually promised to tear down one of their churches each and every time news comes that even one, little Quran is burned. If you ask me, the United Methodists are really ripping themselves off because on church is certainly worth a whole lot more in monetary terms than merely one Quran.”

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June 29, 2011

 

Dear Members of Heartsong Church in Cordova,

 

The Memphis Conference of the United Methodist Church has profiled Heartsong Church’s collaboration with the Memphis Islamic Center in their article entitled:

“Heartsong Church in Cordova has ‘open doors’ for Muslim neighbors.”

Local and national news stories have shown the welcome 6′ sign on the front lawn of Heartsong Church:

which reads:Heartsong Church welcomes the Islamic Cultural Center.”

Photo By Nikki Boertman, Associated Press

August 23, 2010, members of the Memphis Islamic Center pray at Heartsong Church in Cordova, a suburb of Memphis, Tennesee at the invitation of its Pastor Steve Stone…One photo speaks a thousands words

In light of what is certainly confusion regarding the teachings in Islam about Jesus, we invite and appeal to you to view the

“Islamic Jesus vs. Biblical Jesus” video comparison now posted at:

http://www.theperfectpeaceplan.com/peacemedia.html

Since Heartsong Church is affiliated with the United Methodist Church, you ought to be aware of founder John Wesley’s published position on Islam:

JOHN WESLEY ON ISLAM:

“Ever since the religion of Islam appeared in the world, the espousers of it…have been as wolves and tigers to all other nations, rending and tearing all that fell into their merciless paws, and grinding them with their iron teeth; that numberless cities are raised from the foundation, and only their name remaining; that many countries, which were once as the garden of God, are now a desolate wilderness; and that so many once numerous and powerful nations are vanished from the earth! Such was, and is at this day, the rage, the fury, the revenge, of these destroyers of human kind.”

The Doctrine of Original Sin, Works (1841), ix. 205.

In the video, there is an explanation of the Jesus discussed in the Koran and Haddith Scriptures, the eschatology or the End Times difference between Islam and Christianity, and what Islamic Jesus says he will do when he returns to the earth. Is Islam a religion of peace? Is the biblical Jesus the same Jesus as depicted in Muslim Scriptures? Is the Islamic Jesus the Prince of Peace, or another masquerade of the Prince of Darkness? This film has been updated to include Rick Warren’s promotion of Islam and awarding Tony Blair with his Global Peace Plan annual award. It includes John Wesley’s published expose of the religion of Islam.  James Sundquist’s presentation was featured on Andy Andersen Live, WMCA Radio in New York, Prime Time Live, Moody Broadcasting Network, “Watchman on the Wall” national radio program, and recommended by Calvary Contender magazine and featuring in his book Rick Warren’s Global Peace Plan vs. Scriptural Teachings on Peace, published by Southwest Radio Church.

QUESTIONS EVERY GOOD BEREAN SHOULD ASK TO TEST THE SPIRITS TO SEE IF THEY BE OF GOD:

1.  Did you ever witness to the leader or members of the Memphis Islamic Center with these Scriptures:

 

1Jo 5:12          He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

 

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Jhn 3:36          He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

 

2. Do you know that according to the Apostle John’s own definition, Islam is a false religion and that Mohammad was a false teacher and an antichrist:

 

1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 1Jo 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

 

3.  If Islam is a false religion, have you obeyed Scripture and been a good watchman on the wall to warn your congregation?

4.  What Scripture…Old or New Testament authorizes you to bring false gods or their rituals into the Sanctuary or Temple?

5.  Are you aware of the Scripture warning of the Apostle John (and he was not being hateful):

” Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into [your] house, neither bid him God speed:

For he that biddeth him God  speed [NIV renders it “he who WELCOMES him”] is partaker of his evil deeds.”  2 John 1:9-11

6. Are you aware of the Doctrine of Separation in these Scriptures (A Wesleyan Methodist Doctrine of Holiness):

“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.” Galatians 1:6-11

“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.” 2 Cor. 6:14-17

“Enter not into the path of the wicked, and go not in the way of evil [men].  Avoid it, pass not by it, turn from it, and pass away. ”  Proverbs 4:14-15

“Abstain from all appearance of evil” Thess. 5:2

“But whosoever shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and [that] he were drowned in the depth of the sea.” Matthew 18:6

(If your children or unbelievers or young believers see an Islamic Service being conducted in your own church, are you not concerned that they will be influenced by them and become corrupted in the same way that the Children of Israel were led astray by the Golden Calf?)

The Bible is clear about forming unholy alliances.  Here is the quote from the Memphis Islamic Center confirming the unholy Alliance with Heartsong Church:

“We believe this collaboration will reinforce our relationship with the larger Memphis community and allow for a better understanding Islam.”

SOURCE: http://www.memphisislamiccenter.org/425/ramadan-mubarak/

“It was very overwhelming and very pleasant to know that our neighbors welcomed us the moment we stepped into this neighborhood and they put a sign up to welcome Muslims into the area. And more than that they opened their doors to us during the month of Ramadan and we prayed together and now were celebrating together it’s such a great feeling,” said Bashar Shala.  SOURCE: http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/dpp/news/local/112610-muslim-and-christian-church-celebrate-thanksgiving-together

Acceptance and tolerance of any other religion, forming unholy alliances, and praying with them is not what the Apostle Paul did or recommended in the Book of Galatians when he twice condemned them and said let them be eternally damned.  It would not be “more neighborly” for Elijah to pray with the prophets of Baal!  Jude and Peter employed the soberest language when they warned Christians that false teachers would be sitting at your very feasts.  Christians are commanded not to enable, participate or open the door to legions of demons in the name of Jesus by inviting in strange fire, in order to be a good neighbor.

So did anyone witness John 3:16-17 at Heartsong Church/Memphis Islamic Center Thanksgiving Dinner held at Heartsong Church in November 2010?  Was any Muslim there saved from darkness to light by being told to repent and believe the Gospel?  If so, where is that testimony?  Did any of these Methodists tell any Muslim what the founder of the Methodist Church, John Wesley said about Islam?  Was anyone a good watchman on the wall at this church or derelict in his or her Biblical duty?  Did any Muslim at this Thanksgiving Dinner tell any of the Christians or the news media that gathered what the ultimate goal of Islam is and what their Islamic eschatology (Last Days Prophecy) plans are for a different Jesus (Isa) when he returns to the earth?  If not, here is what is written in their own authoritative Haddiths:

Allah’s Messenger said: ‘By Him (Allah) in Whose Hand my soul is, surely the son of Mary [Isa (Jesus)] will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims), and will judge mankind justly by the Law of the Quran (as a just ruler) and will break the Cross and kill pigs and abolish the Jizyah [a tax]’ ….” (Bukhari 3:2222)

SOURCE: http://answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/ultimate_goal.htm

Did any of these Muslims at Thanksgiving Dinner tell any of you that their founder Mohammad says in the Koran that you as a Christian are cursed and deluded because you believe that the Messiah Jesus is the Son of God?

“Next, Muhammad in the following verse curses Christians who say that the Messiah (no better than a prophet in Islam) is the Son of God:

Koran Sura 9:30 … “[A]nd the Christians say: Messiah is the son of Allah. . . . Allah’s Curse be on them, how they are deluded away from the truth! (Hilali and Khan)” SOURCE: http://answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/ultimate_goal.htm

Finally, has the Memphis Islamic Center invited you to conduct Heartsong Church services when their building is completed, where you would preach Christ Crucified and that there is no other name given among men whereby a person can be saved, and only the Blood of Jesus will cleanse them from all unrighteousness?

Likewise, would any church ever be invited to conduct services in a mosque in an Islamic country?

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I would also like to thank Chris Eaves, Small Groups Leader at Heartsong Church, who was very kind in responding to my emails without retaliating or calling them “hateful” because if I were hateful, I would simply remain silent and hope they perish.  If my citing Scripture is hateful, then the Apostles Paul, Jude and John were hateful, for I simply used the exact Scriptures they wrote.  John Wesley certainly was not hateful.  Upon Google search, I could not find a single Wesleyan or Methodist Church or leading bishop or pastor who cited the same quote of John Wesley in order to be good watchmen on the wall and warn their congregations and sound the Alarm on His Holy Hill.  I hope you will.

So my response to your pastor’s email retaliating against me with ad hominem attacks is simply what the Apostle Paul said:

“I am now therefore the enemy because I tell you the truth?”

I pray that you will sound this alarm at Heartsong Church, to the United Methodist Church at large, and throughout Memphis!

Sincerely in Christ,

 

James Sundquist

Director

Rock Salt Publishing

http://www.theperfectpeaceplan.com

 

PASTOR STEVE STONE OF HEARTSONG UNITED METHODIST CHURCH

CHARGES AGAINST JAMES SUNDQUIST

 

From: Steve Stone <[email protected]>

Date: June 26, 2011 4:17:13 PM EDT

To: James Sundquist <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: Response Re: Chrislam: Rick Warren’s Global Peace Plan

 

Hey James,

 

In my response to you I left the door open to the possibility you were not passing judgement one me without knowing the truth of what our church did, but you certainly pile on more evidence toward that in your reply.  Of course it will be up to the Lord whether or not you are trying to take God’s role with me.  I won’t dignify your interrogation with responses.  I believe you would only try to use them as weapons of hatefulness against me.  Regretfully, I will leave you to your god of tiny human made religion, and mourn that you are wielding it in the name of Jesus, and joyfully continue to pursue life spent following Jesus-God in flesh and blood who lives in, with and through me by the Holy Spirit. No further correspondence will be welcome or received unless it comes from you in the Spirit of Jesus.  The only thing I have experienced you being sincere about is a haughty and supercilious attack-not anything in anyway that reflects the deep and wide love of the Lord.

 

[FROM STEVE STONE]

 

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DISCLAIMER:  Rock Salt Publishing was founded by author James Sundquist as a volunteer discernment ministry to assist those who have been affected by the abuse of ecclesiastical power or false doctrine.  The contents of all of the emails, articles, blogs, books and broadcasts have been researched very thoroughly and carefully.  Where applicable, both documentation and supportive Scripture references are provided.  It is a very serious matter to bring charges against any organization or individual, and therefore if anyone reading these charges is able to substantiate that they are false, please bring this to our attention.

 

  1. Jim Denton
    July 31st, 2012 at 15:36 | #1

    Just for the sake of giving the full picture, John Wesley (in the sermon On Living Without God) also said:

    “because I have no authority from the Word of God “to judge those that are without.” Nor do I conceive that any man living has a right to sentence all the heathen and Mahometan world to damnation. It is far better to leave them to him that made them, and who is “the Father of the spirits of all flesh;” who is the God of the Heathens as well as the Christians, and who hateth nothing that he hath made.”

    As a follower of God, the Bible, and Wesley, I do not hate anything that God has made either. If others are in error, then I leave them (as I also leave myself) to him that made us all.

  2. Ronald Baxter
    March 30th, 2012 at 18:27 | #2

    My description of Islam is:An iron -clad system of inflexible monotheism.The teachings of Islam are completely irreconcilable with Christianity and the Pastor Warrens of this world will soon realise that. Also that Muslims will not join Christianity by joining the two faiths.It is not impossible for a Muslim to get saved and renounce Islam. It has happened before with serious consequences.To say that, is limiting the power of God to save the lost,but the responsibility to save is not ours.Only Jesus can truly do that and when we assume His role,we are playing with trouble.

  3. richard amoah
    March 23rd, 2012 at 06:04 | #3

    pollitics in africa is such that our political leaders who profess to be bornagain christians attend muslim prayers and festivals in order to win them to their side so as to have more votes during elections. isnt that against the injunctions of the bible?

  4. ecks why
    December 12th, 2011 at 11:52 | #4

    informed rational freedom loving people have all the reasons in the world to fear islam or chrislam or whatever it is called…

    the twin fogs of political correctness & ignorance must be dispersed before western society better understands this menace. even a brief review of islamic theology & history quickly exposes the deadly roots of this evil ideology.

    Mohamhead was a 7th century murdering warlord who rose to power on a river of blood surrounded by thugs and gangsters using intimidation, violence, deception and trickery to expand their criminal empire while mercilessly suppressing and killing their opponents and enriching themselves on stolen booty.

    The evil koran is a collection of sayings and speeches by this diabolical madman claiming divine guidance from some mythical sky-god which has inspired generations of crazed fanatics to abhorrent behavior resulting in historys worst ever crimes against humanity starting 1400 years ago and still continuing even today.

    Islam is just another fascist totalitarian ideology used by power hungry fanatics on yet another quest for worldwide domination and includes all the usual human rights abuses & suppression of freedoms.

    and a snappy graphics version, great for emailing…

    http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1479/dangermoko.jpg

  5. November 17th, 2011 at 12:49 | #5

    The visible Church is becoming more and more Apostate, but the true bride of Christ will never forsake her Husband.

  6. September 16th, 2011 at 07:41 | #6

    The root problem with these people that compromise with the Truth isn’t that they merely affirm that which is error and false religion — they do that. Rather, the root problem is that they do not truly know, or value, Jesus Christ. When people value Christ the rest of these things fall into place. If you value the Truth you don’t affirm error. If you know Christ as your Way, you don’t lie to people and affirm other false ways. Today’s church is a facade. When they compromise with the Truth this is exposed.

  7. August 23rd, 2011 at 18:44 | #7

    This is so very sad! The gospel for which Christ died is being compromised in the name of “tolerance” and “unity”. Unity for what? Islam denounces Christ as God and in some areas will kill those who believe he is! Is that what the bride of Christ should unite with?

  8. pat martin
    August 12th, 2011 at 07:19 | #8

    So, I guess when Jesus said love your neighbor as I have loved you – He didn’t love any of you very much? It’s sad that people can use Jesus’ name to make money by doing exactly opposite of what Jesus said to do. The old Testament is for those who do not recognize the messiah – or perhaps for those who would portend to be one. Remember Matthew 7:15

  9. Glenn Bertone
    July 3rd, 2011 at 17:49 | #9

    James you are doing a great work for the Kingdom of God!!! Keep on keeping on!

  10. July 2nd, 2011 at 07:21 | #10

    They are not only going against Wesley, but, the Word of God.

  11. Carl Jones
    July 2nd, 2011 at 04:41 | #11

    Dear James,

    John under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit wrote;

    3 John 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.

    To speak the truth in love is what we all need to do and it is what an erring brother needs to hear, you have been faithful in ministering to him, how he responds is between him and God.
    Keep walking in truth brother.

    Carl, just journeying through.